Comments on: PHP Doesn’t Do WordPress and WordPress Doesn’t Do PHP

By: Aaron Brazell

Aaron Brazell — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:46:43 +0000

I’d say that if you’re using SF as your standard for measuring integration of the two communities, you’re looking at it from an extremely short-sighted perspective. WordPress is global. Some of the top devs in the WordPress world (Mark, Otto, etc) are not in SF. Some of the top PHP leaders are not in SF (Keith is DC, Marco is Toronto, Ramsey is Atlanta, Cal is in ~~Germany~~ Nashville, Shiflett is in NYC, Eli White is in MD… Terry is indeed in SF, though).

Anyways… I’m going to go find that PHP Advent article. Thanks, Matt.

By: Keith Casey

Keith Casey — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:55:44 +0000

Matt,

I’ve gone out of my way to invite WordPress people for months… so far *none* of them have said yes. It’s ranged from people who I know personally to people I’ve never interacted with in the slightest.

Other than saying “Please come, I’d love you to speak and participate!”, I don’t know what to do…

Suggestions?

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:44:23 +0000

Historically there weren’t too many PHP folks involved with WP because they all used and/or contributed to Serendipity, so we didn’t mix much.

Today, though, I don’t really feel there is that large a disconnect between the communities, especially in San Francisco where I see different PHP folks fairly often, even at things like the WordPress meetup at the pier. Today I have an article on PHP Advent. Terry is super-active in the PHP community.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:28:13 +0000

Probably because they’re not invited very often.

By: Aaron Brazell

Aaron Brazell — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:12:23 +0000

Ouch!

By: Jackson Murphy

Jackson Murphy — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:37:14 +0000

My clients don’t care about PHP 4 or PHP 5… They just want it to work.

Then again, my clients think they want to update their own websites… until they have to learn how to use WordPress… then they want me to do the updates.

Then I ask myself… Why did I do this site in WordPress?

By: Aaron Brazell

Aaron Brazell — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:54:34 +0000

That’s nice. That’s not what I’m talking about. And stop being religious about PHP 5. That’s one of the disconnects between the WP community and the PHP community. It’s not helpful.

By: Satya Prakash

Satya Prakash — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:46:23 +0000

It is true that we need to support the community. and Wordpress need announce about PHP5 also. When WP is going to have version in PHP5.

I supported the community through writing blog and posting on few forums, like site point and ozzu.com (satya61229).

By: Aaron Brazell

Aaron Brazell — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:47:49 +0000

As someone who sells these services, I’ve come to realize the space is big enough for everyone and that everyone has different expertise. My expertise tends to lie with big data migrations so, as a result, I’m very familiar with those redirects, xml-rpc, etc. I am not going to be good in other areas where colleagues are. Your gripe with the web services community needs to stop. It only makes you look bad.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:33:13 +0000

Reading that post again, it came off with a lot more negativity than I intended, and I apologize for that. My real gripe is not with WP itself, but rather with the folks who sell “web development” services, when truly the extent of their experience is the installation/customization of a finished product.

It’s likely that most WP folks would really have a lot of fun learning PHP more in-depth, and seeing how much more power they can add to the platform by writing custom code to go along with the core.